Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
[Music] do do [Music] well good evening everyone i am dr janice looker fortman and i am your host for this evening and this is the premiere show of relationship matters first i want to thank everyone for being a part of my first show and all of those shows which are to follow we will be talking about all kinds of relationships and the communication patterns that govern most of the relationships uh whether they’re positive negative honest authentic etc and there are all kinds of relationships their personal relationships their professional relationships and all different kinds of dynamics and with a variety of emotions and some insights that we’re going to see we’re going to feature a multitude of experts some research some personal experiences and hopefully some audience participation so i hope that my show enlightens you inspires you motivates you educates you and also entertain you so let me tell you a little bit about me for those who don’t know me i’m married for 10 years to my wonderful husband keith and i have a very handsome adult son whose name is kevin and my husband has three awesome adult daughters felicia vanessa and cameo i’m an international public speaker and an award-winning author of two books and the third one to be released soon today i am interviewing two amazing couples my guests are frank and lakeisha townsend and eric and brenda armstrong so we’re going to be talking about how self-isolation and the quarantine is impacting their relationships and their families and and their just their lives during this covet 19 pandemic i want to tell you why i picked this subject because it’s extremely relevant to right now in the times that we’re living and it’s a new chapter in most marriages it was something that was sudden and without warning just put on us and i started thinking about it some of the things that we took for granted and we felt like they were boring or mundane or rooting they’re kind of looking good right now so i like to say hello quarantine goodbye routine so what i want to do now i want to bring on my first guest now you all have to remember that this is my premiere show so hopefully there are no glitches so i’m going to bring in frank and lakeisha townsend hi it’s dr hooker ford man how are you all this evening
Frank Townsend
We’re doing it yes you say what that hair is lovely on you look at you girl don’t say it’s lovely on me right
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Thank you frank i appreciate that um uh so i want you all you all are gonna find out what frank does and you’re gonna know why he said certain things uh in a little bit so uh why don’t you all introduce yourself let’s start with location tell us just a little bit about you
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay so i’m lakeisha townsend and i am um in my 40s we’ll leave it there
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
And this is good i thought you were in your 20s i’ll pay send me your ad
Lakeisha Townsend
Yeah but and i’m a school psychologist for chicago public schools
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay and frank
Frank Townsend
Okay uh my name is frank uh frank townsend and i am a professional comedian and so i’ve been doing that for 20 years and that’s about it so that’s about it
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay so um tell me about your family
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay um we’ve been together we’ve been married what 10 years about 10 and a half pretty close to um dr porter we have one boy franklin jr and he’s a mess
Frank Townsend
Yep that dude and yeah he he i would be surprised if you see him pop up on his screen we told him not to but he’s not going to do it
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
No problem you know he he’s welcome he’s part of the family so uh lakeisha you said you’re a psychologist for chicago public schools and so how long have you been working with chicago public schools
Lakeisha Townsend
I just completed my 21st year
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh wow okay let me say this when you move around your mic kind of goes in and out all right okay so just to let you know okay and frank um so do we see you on uh let’s see what shows uh hbo or um stephen colbert or jimmy fallon have we seen you on any of those shows
Frank Townsend
No not yet i’m an older comic so i started off with the bet comic views and stuff like that uh most recently in the past few years i’ve been doing a lot of cruise ships i’ve been working with the ncl line and hoping they come back soon so i can get out of this house
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay all right so i am going to ask some questions to you tonight and i want you to be honest i want you to be authentic and i don’t want you to hit each other or anything like that i don’t want you [Laughter] and so let me ask you my first question and this is to lakeisha tell me what have you discovered about your husband since you all have been quarantined together that you didn’t know or they might have surprised you
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay well i’ll say this my husband and i didn’t i guess i didn’t realize this because he keeps such late hours on cruise but he hosts the bed he’s the first one in the bed at home and i didn’t realize that he would conk out on that level like he would be gone by like 10 o’clock some nights and i you know franklin and i have been up kicking it like late and uh he’s long gone i didn’t realize that i guess before this
Frank Townsend
Okay if i don’t have to work i mean right i go to bed
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay and so frank what have you discovered about lakeisha since you all have been quarantined
Frank Townsend
All right this one goes a little bit because it started about a year ago when my wife told me that she um was getting rid of the perm and she was going natural and i was like that’s fine i like your natural hair it’s beautiful she said yeah it was either that or the color and i didn’t know what that meant so it went completely out of my head so now we’re at home and my mom came to visit during the quarantine and we’re sitting on the porch and i decided to stand up and i look at the top of my wife’s head and my wife’s thought you know how tall key she is so you don’t see the top of her head regularly i’m looking at her scalp and it’s white i was like what are you doing she’s like oh my hair been great like this i was like what are you talking about like when i told you about a year ago that i needed to i was like oh that’s what that meant yeah i could either keep one or the other and the color was even though i haven’t had it colored in a while but uh which is why he didn’t know i was that great i had no clue
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay but you know a gray hair means that um she’s wise and you know all that all that good stuff so even though you were surprised i know that you would still just love her even with the gray hair but i understand vacation i do understand so let me ask you this um what do you do if you have some um let’s see how do you tolerate each other have you been i don’t i know i don’t i let me take that back so tell me about your tolerance levels or you know when you have challenges or when you have disagreements or you have arguments have you found that you got to be a little bit more tolerant of each other now that you are sequestered together 24 7.
Lakeisha Townsend
Go for it okay well you know so as you know because i work for cps i’m off in the summer sometimes so it’s not like this the first time we’ve been together all day every day for a span of time it’s never quite this long um but he and i have perfected the ability to be able to find our corners you know and it’s never anything specific you know that’s happening sometimes you know we both have that personality where we just kind of want to be off to ourselves so i’ll find my corner and he finds and i think i feel like that works we haven’t had anything major so have we
Frank Townsend
No no because we don’t normally argue that’s that’s we’ve never been an arguing couple but we have perfected social distancing within this house okay how quick because usually what happens is when i’m home she’s usually at work okay franklin’s at school so i have the house to myself the day that i got off the cruise ship was the day they shut chicago down so the schools were closed which meant they were home and usually i’m i have the house to myself now they’re in my all day with me and i don’t know how to it took me a few days to figure out that this wasn’t going nowhere corona took away my space
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay so but we figured it out we actually it’s funny because sometimes we’ll literally switch rooms yeah oh no yes he’s like are you gonna be in the living room today i’ll be in the bait bedroom today so
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay that’s a good way to do it see my husband has a man cave and so uh that i made particularly specifically for him and and so uh so that we can kind of he can be a little more tolerant of me and and kind of get away from me he goes into this man cave and which i’m not allowed in why are you looking at her like he wants a man i don’t know i’m making sure she’s listening to you offensively and instantly so yeah well lakeisha he has a man cave and um i threaten him every night and to go in there and clean it up but uh i think that uh he you know hears that and since he doesn’t want me in there whenever i do peek in this it’s pretty clean because i have threatened to go in there change things around throw things away but anyway so uh yeah so that’s that’s the kind of way that’s that’s really good because sometimes you do need to kind of just just kind of get get away from each other and and and that’s the truth doesn’t mean you love you don’t love each other or anything like that but it just means that sometimes you need your space and let’s see what is my next question do you have an agreement between the two of you about how you protect yourselves and your families and your surrounding families from uh from covet 19. in other words you know do you uh do you let them come over do you go go over there do they you know do you visit virtually how do you do
Lakeisha Townsend
So you mean family outside of our home yeah outside of your household um well now that we have you know good weather you know a lot of people have come by and maybe sat on our outdoor you know patio area which you know we have the ability to kind of space out there but prior to that and then but maybe a couple people who’ve come by uh i’ve been by my mother’s and we keep distance you know we don’t we want to make sure you know not to get too close with her and we of course use our masks but i guess the agreement is you know i mean just try the social justice we always
Frank Townsend
Yeah because i’ve gone out a few more times and heard because a couple of times become the comedy clubs have opened up so i’ve been a couple of times already so i’m you know she’ll remind me to try to keep my distance from people and i do so i do my best so okay and i feel like her hands wash your hands so i’m doing that a lot with him in with franklin and and i say forgive me you know i know how i sound i don’t want to be in there but i i i’m a nag you admit it
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So let me tell you let me ask you this have have the chores change you know like work schedules or like maybe you used to cook all the time and now he cooks or you know what about your around the house chores because i know now that he’s not on cruise ship and he’s at home and i’ll i’ll put also in that the honeydew list do you have a honeydew list and it and is it getting done
Lakeisha Townsend
Sure yeah list um but now again you know i’m out for the summer so now we both are kind of trying to pitch in wherever we can prior to that um and as you know the kids were also doing uh remote learning prior to you know school ending so i was kind of my responsibility in the morning work and to get him situated with his schoolwork um and that whole thing was a whole nother stress level but um so frank did do a lot of pitching in and um things that you know what we couldn’t do during the day because we were attached to our computers
Frank Townsend
Okay so what do you do for oh excuse me about this because we got this thing where whoever doesn’t want to cook tries their best to stay in the bed the longest i don’t know how it started it was just like a battle where we both just lay there and try to act like we’re not getting up and wait for them to say something first someday and some days she win her home by the way just so you know so get the breakfast going it’s my thought but it’s sausage you can cook
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah okay so so what do you do for entertainment you know now we can’t really go out you know to dancing with the clubs or anything like that to the movies so what do you do for entertainment
Lakeisha Townsend
Television no tournament that lasted how many weeks yeah it was several weeks yeah it was maybe three four weeks oh yeah but it was every other day you know that’s just to keep us as a family engaged because um you know my son really likes who knows so we would do that um you know we’ve done all those things we’ve done movies um we bought some games that we can play out in the yard we even got we even got a ping-pong table
Frank Townsend
Oh okay you know take the walks around the neighborhood and you know things like that just trying to
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay just just kind of getting breaking things up a little bit you know we try to do it all it’s a little bit of everything
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah okay so let me ask you a kind of serious question since you know i i know both of you all are are church churchgoers so what are you doing now for your your uh spiritual and enlightenment or you know fulfillment now that you can’t go to church
Frank Townsend
Kanye west
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I just wanted for some reason your mic it keeps going in and out can you hear me now yeah yeah and we’re good we’re good
Lakeisha Townsend
Okay i don’t go to kanye’s church with him but um yeah i mean streaming services videos you know i’ve mentioned this more than once to people that i felt like at least um in these copic times we’re in a time where technology is so developed that you can stay connected you know with um the bible and with you know the word um by just searching through you can get other people’s services and you know while there’s not a congregation in there um and you don’t have that same feeling as in a building you’re still getting fed um now say this happened you know 30 years ago it would have been a much different experience for people but i’m grateful at least we’re in a time where you know you can get connected you know zoom and all of these you know ways you know it it could have been a lot worse
Frank Townsend
Oh yeah adapted very quickly they did yeah okay good for a lot of people so
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay well you know what i i i want to thank you i’m going to bring you back okay i want to bring on uh my second couple and then after we chat a little bit i’m going to have both you all together and hopefully most of you all can give some instructions or some good advice to marry couples who are finding themselves like almost divorcing okay all right so we’ll see you in a few minutes and thank you all and i need to know later on what comedy club of frank you can tell us all later on okay alrighty so this is new for me now a word from our sponsors [Music] all right we’re back now i’d like to introduce to you all eric and brenda armstrong hi eric and brenda
Eric Armstrong
Hi [Music] how you doing
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Very good so what i want you to do is just kind of introduce yourselves uh to the audience and uh just a little bit about yourself about your family and what do you do
Brenda Armstrong
My name is brenda i’m a 26-year veteran with cps and served in many capacities right now as a classroom teacher i love it uh we’ve been married for 20 years i got it right this time i usually don’t and together for 26 years we have two children um two adult children and three wonderful fantastic grandchildren and we known it was so much fun being grandparents we’d have done that first ages 16 11 and 10 weeks today oh my first boy
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay the first boy did you say this boy oh wow two uh little princesses all right and eric
Eric Armstrong
I’m eric um retired engineer for the board of ass uh [Music] that’s that’s about it she said it all
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay okay well thank you all for for coming in this evening i really appreciate it and uh you know it’s amazing that um you work for chicago board of it well you retired from chicago public schools and then our previous couple um she is a psychologist for chicago public schools and uh what a coincidence better for retired from chicago public school big coincidence so you know what i’m going to jump right into some questions okay my first question is and it’s the same question that of i asked mr and mrs thousand now that you are sequestered together and 24 7 uh brendon what have you learned about eric that you didn’t know before
Brenda Armstrong
Uh i did not know he was such a mr fixit man um i can often hear the drill at six seven a.m so i did not know he was bob the builder uh that’s new uh he’s done several projects um i did not know or did not when he worked it was different he would i guess i got spoiled he would always make our breakfast when he did work and then even retired he would always make my breakfast and sometimes i go downstairs to smell because i smell that there’s been bacon cooked but it’s been one slice i don’t know what’s that yeah that covet did that i guess but uh and then he’ll say oh would you like breakfast and i’m like uh yeah i’m gonna have whatever i’m smelling but there’s no evidence you know so i’ve learned that um i’m i’m kind of a late person i stay up late and then i might get up late and he’s an early riser so he still just continued on with that
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay so eric why are you only trying one piece of baby
Eric Armstrong
Yeah i wanted to clarify that the reason when i get up early than she do and i want her to have a hot breakfast instead instead if i just cook it microwave it it’ll be cold microwave the microwave ain’t good so i i prefer her to have a hot breakfast when she you know when she gets up
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh that’s so crazy [Music] but what uh what i’ve learned um since she was a teacher she had to go online to teach how um well i i knew how good she was as a teacher but since this was new she had she adapted so quickly if all of a sudden it just went like this is this is what this is what she’s been doing all along you know yeah so um just how she quickly uh adapted to the to the change to the change
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay all right yeah okay that’s that’s that’s uh a wonderful because that’s something that i think we’ve all had to do uh we had to adapt some of us it took a little while and then some of us you know we adapted right away so so that’s wonderful so let me ask you this if you have conflicts which i’m sure they’re very few but if you have conflicts what do you do do you go do you have separate spaces
Brenda Armstrong
We tend to be very sarcastic i don’t know if you picked that up so sometimes it’ll be the sarcasm like oh so we’re not going to wash any dishes oh okay or but we try not to be passive aggressive and then after we’ve kind of gotten that out it’ll end up in laughter because you know i’m laughing at him because he goes further than i do or i go further than him and then we have our we have our separate areas even though we haven’t planned it out he’ll be in the basement or i’ll be in the family room and so it just ends up like that and then we’ll just kind of or he’s in the garage we’ll just kind of check on each other every now and then like you’re good you’re good you want some water huh okay and then we go back to wherever we were
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay so uh you don’t have a separate spot because now um i had my husband i built not i didn’t build it but um i converted uh my son’s room when you know i kicked him out but anyway i didn’t kick him out but when it was time for him to go um and i converted that uh into a man cave for my husband and so what happens is whenever we have a conflict he goes into his man cave and i’m here in my office and as i told the couple earlier uh every now and then uh well it’s supposed it’s supposed to be off limits to me but every now and then i threaten to go in and clean it up you know and move things around and throw things out but uh i guess he hears that and so uh whenever i do peek in there um everything you know pretty nice and pretty tight every now and then i go in and just sit in there just because he said i can’t so and so okay so yeah we so we all have our ways you know when things get a little rough and a little problem uh so that we can keep everything kind of smooth running so let me ask you this well um i’ve our i don’t have to ask you about yours because i understand now that he’s bob the builder so that’s that’s that’s wonderful um what do you do for entertainment
Brenda Armstrong
Um we we really in the beginning we really got into netflix like we really were scheduling in it and i think it was different because we made um space for that time together so it’s like you know seven we gotta watch you know we gotta finish the rest of that series and we watch whatever we binge watch whatever we had decided on until we went to bed maybe two or three we still kind of uh meet up and do that um together or he’ll be watching something separately and he might tell me about it and vice versa uh we started reading i think the first book together and then um there was another book that uh our church had recommended and we started reading that together bible study and and then oh exercise i forgot kobe made me yes no we had to or we would have been widening the doors when was for me covered 15 30 79 it was bad i was eating everything and i learned instacart so that was probably the worst thing because i was just they were coming almost every hour so uh we got back to the exercise and so we exercised together and i even got him to dance with me you know just to get better because it was bad
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
What kind of dancing do you all do
Brenda Armstrong
I had to slow dance with them but i had to tell them come on slow dance and then we just kind of stepped it anything to get moving anything get moving
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
That’s excellent that’s excellent i know the first uh i would say maybe the first month every time i walked by the refrigerator i opened it and found something to eat you know just and then one day i tried to put on a pair of jeans and i couldn’t give them up and then i um normally i work out i work out um three days well i used to work out i’d go to the gym three days a week and and work out but now since i can’t do that my metabolism is zilch zero so no matter what i eat you know but i’ve learned after that first month or so you know cut back and you’re right instacart yeah instacart was coming and i had all these floors in my location it was it was bad it was working yes so i i do understand that so let me ask an another question uh now you have adult children so so how do you all do as as far as like visiting do do you have an agreement where you know they have if they come by or if if they do come back or if you go that they have to wear a mask or anything like that so how how do you all handle that eric you can ask that how do you all handle that
Eric Armstrong
Well they they already they already know they come not not because of of the of what the standards that we said is is that they you know they do that themselves okay grandkids they come with the mads but the um youngest daughter she was with us you know um um the a few months before she had the baby so she was so she was here and and um she’s you know she stayed in until she had until she had debate right so we didn’t we don’t um have too many too many visitors though and we usually go go and see our families but um you know um it it wasn’t it wasn’t no um you know big transition hey hey you got to wear the ass wear them ass
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay all right so and so you you distance yourself when you do visit you know you have your six feet apart and stuff like that
Eric Armstrong
Yeah yeah
Brenda Armstrong
We also sit on the patio and
Eric Armstrong
Yeah we have a patio so
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay i’m sorry go ahead
Eric Armstrong
I was gonna say it wasn’t really too too much visiting you you know at first you know so you know everybody stood everybody was at their own place
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh okay so so what do you miss most you know when you think of pre-colbert and you think um now what brenda what do you miss most
Brenda Armstrong
I miss my independence the most um but i’ve gotten used to it i mean at first i was kind of you know no i when you could go out i’ll go to the store by myself and then when we did go out together it is so such a huge deal you know do you hear you go up do you hear your masters that it’s almost tiring where um like i tell my students don’t look for me my husband don’t look for me he knows i’m coming home because i might stop here there there there there and now it’s like we have a destination we’re going one or two places and then we’re ready to come back in so i i missed that where you know i might i might just pop up at a flower shop like oh okay now it’s very strategic we’ve planned it out i’ve gotten used to it and i appreciate he kept telling me no we gotta we’ll do it together and i was really resisting like i could go to slow by myself i’m growing i can do this and then when i saw how it was i was like going somewhere do you have my glove it was like i was five and it’s like i have your clothes you have you have some fantasy yes i have it all so he had everything when had i gone by myself it would have been such a shock to me i wasn’t ready
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh okay and and what about you eric what what do you miss the most
Eric Armstrong
Um the the tech well i guess i miss the the the meetings i have with my friends just once a month you you know just getting together and [Music] you know it’s a it’s a it’s an adjustment and on on one hand it’s it’s a good adjustment because when you’re in the when you’re in i’m gonna say people are my age group um i’m uh 59. we we want some distance so you know not don’t be up all up on me so um so in in that aspect giving people their space it’s a good thing okay you know um but what i miss the most is just um you you know now i have i have to think about um you know the social distance the what i didn’t have to think about before um and just the camaraderie with my with my friends you know you know now that we when we do come together it’s gonna be social distance yeah you know you know give you something to to think about it it just can’t be okay now it’s over with no we we’re gonna continue keep this going yeah you know
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah yeah so uh let me ask you this question uh now that uh i know both of you all are are religious and your church goers so what do you do now now that you you know you can’t go to church so um and be around you know uh and worship together you know with people so what do you do now for your spiritual fulfillment what do you do brenda what do you do
Brenda Armstrong
Well i’m an associate minister so i still we uh have cyber service so i go to the church and still uh with uh two other uh associate ministers we still teach bible class so it you know we’re videotaped and then um i had not been out in a while for um preaching but then um recently i went out again and you know there’s a few of us there so we can take it so uh done that but the regular bible service uh is good you know it’s uh a whole new you know day because you don’t have the people necessarily in front of you but you still know that you’re actually reaching more people so it’s a huge responsibility in terms of that you know and try not to get nervous but try to be prepared uh together and he’s a deacon so together uh we like i said done some reading at home with each other i do miss um you know the congregation uh we try to keep up with them by checking in especially the seniors but i do miss a meeting together
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay okay what about you eric the same or you’re a little different
Eric Armstrong
Um [Music] yeah pretty much the same we we have um the school board um zoom meetings um just you know when when up when we uh started the meetings we that’s it’s still a learning process everybody can’t sing at the same time just that person that’s designated to sing okay and everybody else mute they might yeah you know yeah so it won’t be all over the place you know but other than that is it’s um we can’t wait till we get back but it’s it’s going it’s gone it’s wrong you know well what i’m going to do uh i’m going to have a we have a sponsor so i’m going to do a word uh from the sponsor and then i’m going to bring you and the uh uh the uh townsends back together and um i’m gonna see if we have some questions that uh the audience would like to ask both of you so let me go to commercial right quick and then we’ll be right back now i’m gonna have to read this so coffee tea and me which is the commercial that you saw that’s much faster is a manufacturer that was founded by gwen maben in 1987 and she’s also a former high school educator and marketing vice president she’s an expert and leader in natural gourmet baked goods her delicious and nutritious breakfast breads and cookies rival most larger companies her wholesome baked goods are used nationwide in schools in hospitals in restaurants and her place some of her flavors are banana crunch carrot date orange crush uh my favorite is the banana nut the banana crunch it is really good and so her tagline is we provide healthy menu solutions and i would like to thank her for uh becoming a sponsor of my show so now i’m going to bring both couples in frank and lakeisha
Frank Townsend
Hey
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I saw you see you all couldn’t see them but i could see them in the studio and they were doing hurry i didn’t supply you all with refreshments but you know the budget was making the keith with thompson this is brenda and eric armstrong and um well all three of us really uh have uh contacts with the chicago public school system and before i go to the questions from of my audience and i see there quite a few comments and quite a few questions over here so i’m gonna click so um i’m gonna ask you this first because you’re both involved really with chicago public school lapis what do you think about the school’s opening in september
Lakeisha Townsend
I don’t think it’s a good idea but i’m you know all situations okay your mic is in and out okay i don’t know what’s happening no i don’t hear you can hear you now okay okay i mean all the situations have pros and cons um i don’t know you know an easy fix for it but i i really think we should probably stick with the remote learning for now but you know if they can ensure that we’re safe
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay all right brenda what do you think
Brenda Armstrong
I agree with lakeisha you know this one this way oh that uh safety is a priority right now and in emergencies you know emergency uh measures are what are required we’d love to be back with our students our colleagues but we kind of want to live so yeah a little while longer you know get my son raised first you know then you know after that you know so i i i’m looking at the comments um and i see a hey y’all back from lauren harris who is uh my my coach and then now both of y’all know my son kevin look right yeah i made the mistake of playing he was handsome because he’s down here yes that’s me the handsome one you know but kevin and i are in the light skin club so [Laughter] but lauren paris wanted to know have you all argued more during quarantine than usual
Frank Townsend
No no we haven’t
Brenda Armstrong
Yeah
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay that’s great i gotta love the one you would ask uh my sidekick who you all can’t see um have we argue more not no more than you well [Laughter] [Music] and aaron hines says everybody looks great and liz tanner says i can’t stand you frank townsend uh talking about kanye going to kanye’s church she said she hit her evan we love you hey liz okay and uh let’s see what else um and there’s some other folks on here um that say oh one tina escobar says uh that uh she and her husband are lucky that they can eat dinner together yes yes and yeah yes um and liz and i see i’m supposed to be able to run all these questions across the bottom but this is my first show and so and my husband said you know what be careful so you don’t click on something everything everybody’s gone so but i can read so and liz mardis who’s a good friend’s friend of mine said she’s missing the concerts and outdoor events and same year uh my husband and i would go to a lot of concerts and outdoor events and we traveled we used to travel a lot uh one of my girlfriends uh said she was gonna put um on my facebook page where’s waldo because we were all you know we were always gone somewhere out of the country uh cruises we loved the cruise yeah and um so i i so both of us we really really miss that so kevin says fun fact uh lakeisha and brenda have both worked at ogle’s feet uh uh yes i’ve been gone maybe about nine ten years now but i was there okay yeah and so now i do see one question here and i’m gonna see if i can run that there it is what oh i did it so what do you think will change after the pandemic
Frank Townsend
A lot of people going to get out of the ones they in because they can’t stand who they would oh this this opened some ass for a lot of folk you know it did
Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah yeah unfortunately they said that i read some research and it said something about uh the divorce rate that about people filing for divorce that is the rate is higher than normal because when you think about it um it’s really something to be with someone uh in close proximity 24 7 um and and especially if you really don’t know them um my husband and i we were uh together well going together was a boyfriend and girlfriend for eight years before we got married and i finally said okay i will marry you take your time take your time so you know we’re going about a wrap up it’s we got about a couple of more minutes but what i want to say to both of you i really want to thank you all for uh coming on my show and frank and the kingstock would say this um the other couple that i had to come on had to cancel this morning they have a three and a half week old baby you know how that both of you all know how that is yes frank and lakeisha were gracious enough at the last minute to uh support me uh on my show and i really appreciate you frank and nekeisha and brenda and eric they didn’t have um that much time to prepare you but um you all uh i i appreciate both of you all you all are wonderful couples and i just and i want to thank my audience all of you who have tuned in i really appreciate it and my show will be every other thursday at 7 00 p.m we’re going to talk about all kinds of relationships but the next show the theme of it is the very first relationship that we all have or had the very first one we won’t be back on that show [Laughter] you’re if anyone wants to get in contact me if you have some ideas about the show that you would like us to discuss uh invite your friends and if you’d like to be a guest on the show you can reach me at jan4now125 at gmail.com thank everyone for tuning in so goodbye for now have a good evening everybody bye bye [Music] make sure you get your okay so bye bye everybody