Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
[Music] yes [Music] [Applause] [Music] good morning good afternoon good evening wherever you are in the world it’s Dr. Janice Fortman with Relationship Matters. I hope everyone is doing great and they are having a beautiful day wherever you are. Now, you know I usually get on my soapbox, but I’ve got one foot on and one foot off because the numbers are going down, more people are getting vaccinated, and I think now children can get vaccinated, even young, young, young, young children, and the numbers are going down. So maybe I’ll get a chance to go on my cruise. So I just want to thank you, I want to thank my audience, all of you who have gotten your vaccines, and for the ones who haven’t gotten it, you know what, I’m still, you know, like I said, I got one foot on and one foot off. Well, today’s guest, let me tell you about today’s guest, because I want to get into this right away. His name is Reverend Craig Wright. He’s a native of Baltimore, Maryland, where he studied religion and philosophy in his youth as a member of the Baltimore Ethical Society. He holds degrees in psychology and metaphysics, and he received these degrees from the University of Metaphysics International Metaphysical Ministry. He’s an ordained metaphysical minister and a certified metaphysical practitioner and a numerologist. Now, Dr. Craig’s services have been sought nationally and internationally. He has served as a resource to several human service agencies by conducting seminars and workshops. He has a wide area of clientele who consult with him regularly on personal as well as business matters. I want all of you out there to welcome Dr. Craig Wright. Hello there, Dr. Craig Wright, how are you?

Craig E Wright
Hello, Dr. Fortman, just fine, thank you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
That’s good, that’s good, that’s good. You know, I want to jump right into it, but first, I want to ask a question. Okay, tell me about a metaphysical, what, what is all of that about?

Craig E Wright
Sure, I’d be glad to. Metaphysics, the word meta refers to beyond, and physics refers to the physical world. So as a metaphysician, I study things that are in the spiritual realm. For example, if you look outside and you saw a tree, you see a beautiful tree, the bark, the leaves, the branches, but what you don’t see is what’s sustaining the tree, and that’s the roots. So as a metaphysician, that’s what we study, the roots. When it comes to people, I focus on spirituality beyond the physical. See, we are not physical beings having an occasional spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a temporary physical experience.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay, all right, okay, beyond the physical. Anyone that believes in a deity or if you’re in Christ or Islam, whatever, if you believe in a deity, you’re a metaphysician, something beyond the physical, a higher power.

Craig E Wright
Okay, all righty. So now you told me about metaphysics, told us about metaphysics. Tell me about numerology. What is numerology and where did it come from?

Craig E Wright
Okay, numerology has been, as far back as my research has shown me, it’s going, it goes back about 4,000 years. The earliest writing was found on a tortoise shell, and there were numbers. Information about numerology was also taught in the Egyptian mystery schools. If you went to those schools and you went to the great temple, above the temple walls it said, “Know thyself.” Now, the Western civilization attributes that to the Greeks, but if you have to ask the Greeks, they’ll tell you they learned it from the Egyptians, from the Africans. Moses studied there, Jesus studied there, and Pythagoras, most people, if you had the Pythagorean theorem in geometry, you know who Pythagoras is. Well, Pythagoras spent 20 years in the Egyptian mystery schools before he came back and started his teachings, but that’s where they came from. So numerology is based on the belief that’s where it came from, but what it is, is it’s based on the belief that we were created by the word of God. Words are vibrations that we use letters and numbers as symbols for. It starts in grade school. Doctor, the teacher says, “Ah, we’re gonna call that A, boys and girls, one, one, here’s the symbol for that.” So we’re given the vibrations and taught the symbols for them. So because we were created by the word of God and words are symbolized by letters and numbers, all letters and numbers reveal spiritual qualities. Your address, your phone number, many of my clients contact me because they’re seeing repeating number patterns. They want, “Dr. Wright, what’s the universe trying to tell me?” But it’s very important when you’re trying to know yourself. It’s very important in terms of relationship. You see, numerology gives you an insight to your inner self based on the fact that we each have a contract with our creator. I call it the Jeremiah effect. The prophet Jeremiah, before you were formed in the womb, God told him we had a contract. So you see, we start off as spirits before we’re formed in a womb. We have a contract with God. With the first breath, that spirit enters the vehicle. This is just a vehicle for the earthly plane, and the journey is on. The birthday reveals God’s gifts. The name reveals our promise, and that’s what numerology is. It’s the study of numbers and letters based on the fact that we were created by the word of God. You see, numbers are different from figures. If I hold up a pen and I say, “I have one pen,” that’s a figure, one pen, Dr. Fortman. But if I look a little closer and say, “Dick pins are number one,” now I’m no longer talking about a quantity but a quality. So numerology is the study of the spiritual qualities revealed by numbers.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay, so I understand that your journey searching for the meaning of life was prompted by the death of a dear friend. I think that’s what got you interested in numerology. So could you kind of expound on this journey and what actually started your journey into this?

Craig E Wright
Yes, well, you sized it right up very succinctly. It was the death of a close friend, and before that, I was studying math and science. I wanted to be a pilot in the Navy, but with his passing, my whole emphasis on life changed. Before that, I did not believe in God. I thought God was a crutch for the weak, a figment of people’s imaginations. If you couldn’t measure it, quantify it, I was a scientist. I was a scientist studying math and science. I wanted to fly aircraft and drop napalm on people and machine gun them. That was my intention until my best friend died, and I experienced loss, and it changed everything. It changed my focus from figures to numbers. I was already prepared to work with figures. I could add, multiply, subtract very quickly. I was very adept with numbers and science, but when I discovered the secret meaning of numbers, it was as though I had already been prepared, and this was a graduate study. God was moving me up to the next level. It’s just like a farmer. Before you plant seed, the farmer hits that ground with a plow. You got to break it up, kind of bust it up, throw out the old so those seeds can gain root in the new soil, and that’s what God does to us. The challenges, the problems that we face in life, they’re designed to awaken us. People are always going around trying to find the easy way out, make life easy. They want to sit back. They sure was sitting back on the island. That’s cool for resting, for rejuvenation, but we come here to face the challenges, to build spiritual muscles, to rely on that energy. Those challenges are designed to turn us within. It’s especially important if you’re in a relationship. Most people, the relationship, they go by how someone dresses, what school they went to, what kind of car does he drive, how much money is they got, or I’m not even going to what guys talk about when we’re considering a mate, but suffice to say, it’s pretty much all physical. Those are material matters, and that’s why relationships fail. But if you know your contract with God going in, if you know why you’re here, you know your spiritual gifts, you know your mate’s spiritual gifts, you’re building on a rock, you’re building on a solid foundation. So one of my services, I do marriages, but before I do, I do compatibility reports. If someone contacts me and they want to get married, I say, “That’s fine, we’re going to start with compatibility. Let’s do some talking, let’s have some conversation about what you’re getting into.” This is tremendously effective. As they say, Dr. Fortman, the numbers don’t lie. It’s amazing, it’s amazing. Everybody knows what number one means, numero uno, number one, the leader. We got a Super Bowl coming up, who’s going to be number one? But every number has a meaning. The number two stands for peace, cooperation. If one is Adam and two is Eve, three stands for youth, expression, joy. The story of the Christ is about the number three, from three wise men to arising on the third day. Okay, there’s a lot of threes in between, I left them out for time’s sake. The number four stands for working order, five stands for freedom, six stands for service. That’s the greatest among us. When the six shows up, you got a great soul. Scripture says that greatness among you will be the servants. Martin Luther King Jr. was born on the 15th, for example, and one plus five is six. The number seven stands for faith and wisdom. On the seventh day, God rested. So servants need quiet time by themselves to think, to ponder, to study. If you seek the kingdom as a number seven, all else is added unto you. That’s what it says in the scripture. So the number eight, which follows seven, is all else being added to you. Money, power, extravagance, that’s the carrot they hang out to keep the economy going. But that’s just one expression that we’re here. You know, people think we’re here to chase money, but pretty much that’s not why we’re here. After the eight comes the number nine, and that stands for philanthropy. After we’ve satiated our desires and brought all the cute little gifts and realized that stuff doesn’t make me feel good, then we turn to the nine. That’s giving without thought of return. So there’s really only nine numbers, zero symbol for God, one through nine. After that, everything is a repeat. Now, there are some numbers like Fortman that are called master numbers. That’s still one through nine, but now it’s double. Two ones, two twos, the number 22, double threes are 33. 11 is called the master teacher, the number of revelation. Jesus was an 11. The number 22 is called the master builder. If you’re born on the 22nd of any month, you’re a globalist, you’re here to build an empire. 33 is called the master healer vibration, someone who’s here to be of universal service. And I believe we found that in your chart, Dr. Fortman, master healer, universal service. 44 is a master liberator. That showed up in the chart of Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela. They were both 44s. 55 stands for master of divine will. Two sixes, master of universal joy. Two sevens, master of creative thought. Two eights, master of divine knowing. And double nines, the only one that I’ve come across, and I’ve been doing this over 30 years, was Nelson Mandela. He was a 99, and 99 is called the master of universal love. That’s why after apartheid, there was no retribution, there was no white bloodshed, because the master of universal love was the president and making sure everything was running smooth. I’ve been doing this 30 years, I’m still amazed by the nine. It still amazes me.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I’m sorry, I can’t hear you. Am I muted? Are you muted? I must have done something on my end. I don’t know what happened. You can hear me, but I can’t hear you. How is that possible? My volume is still up. Now can you hear me?

Craig E Wright
Yes, I can.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh, I know what happened. I got so excited.

Craig E Wright
I’m glad it wasn’t me.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I’ve muted. Okay, wait a minute. You know what, I got excited when you said, for me, you said master healer.

Craig E Wright
Yes.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow.

Craig E Wright
Yes. Can I refer to your name now to share everyone where that came from?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah, great, great, I’d be glad to.

Craig E Wright
Okay. As I mentioned before, there’s something I call the Jeremiah effect, and that is the fact that we all have a contract with our creator. And Dr. Fortman, you were nice enough to send me over your name, and I mentioned the number 33, which is master healer and master of universal service, and that shows up in the name Fortman. Thank you. And what we do, we use what’s called a conversion chart. If you want to see a conversion chart, you can go to my website, craigyright.com, or you can make one of your own simply by writing the numbers one through nine across the page. Under the number one, you write the letters A, J, and S, and you just go on from there to fill the rest of the chart out. So I’m going to be using the conversion chart when I talk about Fortman, okay? This is just so people know where the numbers are coming from. The name Fortman, F-O-R-T-M-A-N, F is the sixth letter of the alphabet, O is the 15th, so we add one plus five and get six, Dr. King’s birthday, by the way. R is the 18th letter, one plus eight is nine, so so far we have six plus six plus nine. T is the 20th letter, two and zero is two. M is the 13th, that’s a four. A is the first, that’s a one. N is a 14, so that’s a five. So Fortman is six plus six plus nine plus two plus four plus one plus five. You just add it up, you substitute numbers based on where it falls in the alphabet, you add it up, and that adds up to 33 all day long. So you are a master soul. In fact, the scripture says the greatest among us are the servants. That’s the number six. Three plus three is six. The 33 is the highest of all the servants. So you are here to do universal good and to help heal the planet. And how much more do we need it than in relationships? That’s where it all begins. Everything is a relationship, a lengthy, and it just spells out. So you’ve chosen a very good point in the conflict of resolution that we have on this planet in which to work. That’s a master healer.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So let me… Okay, you muted your mic again. I can’t hear you. Maybe it’s just going off on its own.

Craig E Wright
Right, not yet. It says it’s not muted, but for some reason, there must be forces working against us. Can you hear me?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow, that’s very interesting. Wow. So should I continue? Let me try something. Okay, not yet, not yet. How about now?

Craig E Wright
Oh, it’s muted. I see there’s a mark on it.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
What about now?

Craig E Wright
Now I can hear you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
You know, it’s doing that on its own because I’m not even touching anything.

Craig E Wright
Wow, there are forces trying to keep us from getting this good word out.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I wanted to ask you a question because Fortman is my married name. That’s my husband’s last name. And what you are saying about him, him really, and his family.

Craig E Wright
And his family, yes.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I, wow.

Craig E Wright
Teachers, healers, counselors, preachers, doctors, master healers, counselors.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So does it matter, like if you marry into a name, or is it more so your birth name, you know, that you were given your last name?

Craig E Wright
Excellent, that’s an excellent question. Whenever I do my readings, I do an introductory reading and an advanced reading. I look at both names. The birth name is the broth to the soup. The marriage name, or if you change your name, you cut up some potatoes, added some carrots, some celery, sometimes some onion into the soup. So I look at the birth name and the current name because whatever you are calling yourself by, that energy that you are putting out, that’s energy you’re putting out into the universe. So the birth name reveals your ultimate contract. The name you’re using is how you’re manifesting it. Would you like to share your birth name with me?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah, Janice, J-A-N-I-C-E.

Craig E Wright
There’s just going to be one name that’s different, right?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I have, I have Janice. I’ve been married three times, so…

Craig E Wright
Well, you only had one name on your birth certificate, right?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
On my birth certificate, it’s Lewis, L-E-W-I-S.

Craig E Wright
Excellent, okay. That’s the number five. Lewis is a number five. It’s three, five, five, nine, one, for those who are playing along. L is a 12th, that’s a three. E is a fifth letter. W, the 23rd, adds up to five, two plus three, nine. I is a ninth, that’s a nine. S is the 19th, that’s the number one. That adds up to 23. The number 23 adds up to a five, and that stands for freedom and change.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow.

Craig E Wright
And change.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
That is so me.

Craig E Wright
Oh yeah.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow.

Craig E Wright
And yeah, that’s your birthday. My birthday is December 5th, one, two, yeah, there’s another five. You probably never noticed that, right? So Lewis, check it out. The five is God’s gift to you. The fifth, the name Lewis is your promise to God. And when they match, you know what that means? You say, “I’m gonna be whatever you want me to be, God. You just tell me, yet thou will, not my will be done. Whatever you say, I’m your servant.” And that’s why you look for a 33 to double down on the promise. It’s the number of the servant. When they match, it’s harmony. You are linked with the creator through the energy of your name, which is your promise, and the number of your day of birth, which is your gift. In fact, when I added up your month, your day, and your year, it added up to 32. And three plus two is five. So not only was it your day of birth, it’s your birth path number. That’s the sum of month, day, and year. And that’s the ultimate gift you got from the creator, the number five. Your month is a gift, your day is a gift, your year is a gift, and the sum is a gift. So let’s start with your month. It’s a three. That’s the gift of expression, singing, painting, dancing, writing, anything artistic, decorative, entertaining. You will always appear younger than you are, and you have an amazing influence on youth. It’s also the story of the Christ in number three. Three wise men, Peter denied him three times before the rooster could crow, crucified between two others, arose on the third day. So you have that spiritual energy, and the three stands for abundance. When they said, “Master, why are you here?” He said, “I’m here that you have life and have it more abundantly.” So your gift is to provide people with abundant life. The number 12 is the number of genius, so you’re doing it like no other. Your day of birth, the five, stands for freedom. So that means you’re here to rock the boat and cause some trouble. That’s what the keepers of tradition will call the number five. They don’t want to see change, and you are God’s change agent. You don’t have to try, you don’t have to think about it. When you’re on the scene, oh, there’s going to be change. Your year is a number six, service. So we have expression in you, abundance, freedom and change, and service, teaching, counseling, nurturing, giving advice. Those are your gifts. When we add three plus five plus six, it adds up to 14. One plus four is five. Five is just a double down on that other number. So what does that mean? God said, “I need some changes down there.” You said, “Send me in, coach. Send me in. Give me wisdom. Give me freedom. Don’t tie me to a nine-to-five job.” Then they can control us because we have work to do. We have work to do. We can’t be controlled. We have to be free. And let me be of service. Let me be a great soul, putting others ahead of myself. God said, “These are your gifts.” Does that sound familiar?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
You know, I’m a retired teacher.

Craig E Wright
I did not know that.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
No, you didn’t.

Craig E Wright
I’m a retired teacher. OMG. [Music]

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Dr. Craig, this is amazing. I gotta go to a quick commercial, and I have a couple of people who put their names in here.

Craig E Wright
Outstanding.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
And so we’ll be right back. Oh my gosh. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Well, we are back with Dr. Craig, and oh my goodness gracious.

Craig E Wright
Dr. Fortman, I don’t want to mute myself anymore.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Stop, Dr. Fortman.

Craig E Wright
Yes, while on the break, I received some information I’d like to share with you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay.

Craig E Wright
This is going to be a big year for you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Oh, goody.

Craig E Wright
In April, you’ll get the sand out of your shoe, and in May, you’ll be able to begin 501c3 and profit both.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay.

Craig E Wright
And I receive it, and the book is going to be a big success.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
How did you know I’m writing another book?

Craig E Wright
I didn’t.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Yeah, I just, on the break.

Craig E Wright
Wow.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
When you look at the numbers, when I look at the numbers, it’s like on a radio dial. You turn it on, and music starts to play, right? So the longer I sit here and look at these numbers, the more information that’ll just keep coming in. So yes, you’re a writer. In fact, there are many things you may have written down on scraps of paper that you don’t think people are ready for yet, and that’s the stuff that’s light, truth, light, and wisdom. God’s saying it doesn’t matter if they’re ready. You’re going to make people ready when you let your light shine. So take it out from under the basket, let it shine. Don’t worry about it. You’re here to shake things up, to be God’s change agent, and be prepared to have it put in different languages because you’re going to rock the planet.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I’m amazed. I’m amazed. I really am. I mean, it’s almost like you’re inside of my head.

Craig E Wright
Metaphysician. I’m looking at the roots, the foundation, the spiritual foundation. Dr. Fortman, we are literally the living word of God.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay. Oh my goodness. Well, we have Maxine Walker. So you see her full name, and she asked about the number 19.

Craig E Wright
I’m not surprised she’s asking about that. The name Maxine is a number three. The name Walker is a seven. Three plus seven is ten. If you add one plus nine, you get the same thing. Maxine, you are all about being a leader, being out front, being strong, dominant. If you don’t have your own business, if you don’t have your own business, and I strongly recommend it, at the very least, you will be the face of the organization, the out-front person, as they call it. Many 19s get involved in politics. The most famous 19 was Malcolm X. You are here to lead the masses, Maxine Walker, number one. And your first guest, see how that energy flows? She’s a number one. She’s the first guest. That’s powerful. That’s amazing to me. Wow. Did she hear what I said? Can she give us feedback?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Maxine, give us feedback. Is that you? I know that Maxine is all about service. That I do know about Maxine.

Craig E Wright
Well, that’s her vowel total. A, I, E. A is the first letter, I is the ninth, E is the fifth. That adds up to 15. That’s Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday. One plus five is six. Great soul energy, service. That’s the number six. But that’s her vowel total. In fact, her consonants are also a six. Six and six was twelve. That’s where the number three comes from. So you’re right. She’s all about service. The vowels and the consonants, two sixes, I added together. That’s where the three came from in Maxine. See, you’re a numerologist too.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
[Laughter] Now I’m gonna put someone’s name in. She doesn’t know I’m gonna put it in there, but I’m gonna put it in there anyway. And I think that you have had some experience with her, at least some communication with her. She had normal put her name in, but that’s Karen Brown.

Craig E Wright
Yes, I did. As a matter of fact, the name Karen is a 22. That’s called the master builder vibration, the master builder. Her vowel total is also a six. So you’ve surrounded yourself with people of service like yourself. A is the first letter of the alphabet, that’s the number one. E is the fifth letter, one plus five is six. The letter S is the 19th letter. Someone just asked about the number 19. It’s a number one. Why? Because one and nine is ten, and one plus zero is one. We add it to a single digit, unless, you know, double elevens, double twos, double threes. We don’t add those. Those are master numbers. Everything else, we keep adding. So, so far, we have a 22 and a number one. The name Brown is a number 27. If you look at the vowel total of Brown, it’s the O, which is the 15th letter of the alphabet. Service. Martin Luther King Jr. was born on the 15th. People named Brown want to be of service because of the letter O. O stands for service. It’s a number six vibration. The sixes are F, O, and X. F is the sixth letter, O is the 15th, X is the 24th. Two plus four, six. So Karen S. Brown is 22 plus one plus nine, adds up to 32, which was your month, day, and year of birth. Her name matches your, you’re both fives.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
You didn’t know I was gonna do that, Karen, but I did. So let me, there’s a question that came in, and it is, what number would you assign to the state of our world today?

Craig E Wright
Oh, that’s kind of easy. You look at the name Earth, E-A-R-T-H, 10, 25, 2, 5, 7. Lack of faith. That’s the state of our world today. You see, pure faith eliminates fear. It can’t, they cannot exist. They are opposite sides of the same coin. And true love eliminates hate. You see, we go, we think love is, if I do this for you, what will you do for me? No, true love is selfless giving, giving without thought of return, letting yourself be a channel for blessing for others. But it’s an evolutionary process. We’re learning, we’re growing, you know, and light always appears the brightest when it’s dark. True, it’s just the nature of where we are. When God created this place, the first thing he did was separate light from darkness. So we live in a world of duality, and we have a choice. We can walk in the light, we’ll walk in the darkness. Most of us jump back and forth across the line. Some of us try to straddle the line, but eventually we discover the light’s the best place to be. Takes a while. Numerology is also founded on the principle of reincarnation, that the soul pre-exists before it enters the body. It goes back home. When God said, “Let there be light,” we were all created. There are spirits now in line. Let me go to Earth. I want a body. I want a body because there’s things you can only learn here. So this is like a university for the soul, and old souls come back to be teachers and healers, such as yourself.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Am I an old soul? I never would think I was an old soul.

Craig E Wright
An old soul, let me describe what I mean by that. As a number five, you are the picture of, you keep your ID with you, nobody gonna believe your age. But it also is someone who has had many lifetimes and has integrated the lessons of their lifetimes, and now they are here to share their knowledge with others and to help heal, to help heal. As we progress on this plane, eventually we’re all headed toward a Christ-hold experience. Why do I say that? That’s what Jesus said. He said, “Don’t call me father. We only have one father, and these and greater things will you do.” So what do we do? We try to elevate him as the great exception. Okay, he was a great example. He was telling us who we are, why we’re here, and what we can do. And eventually, we’ll get there. He had disciples doing the same thing he did. One of his boys was walking on water. So he said, “Oh my God, I’m walking on water.” Down he went. A lack of faith, a lack of faith. When it gets dark enough, we’ll call back to God. When it gets dark enough, when it’s getting pretty dark right now. Heard the story of the prodigal son. We’re all prodigal sons and daughters. Once we squandered our riches and came to the point, and we’re really getting there now, we’ll turn back home. For me, it was a shock treatment. My best friend was gone, and I didn’t even know he was used. Wow, that taught me a lot about myself. I was not paying attention. I was self-absorbed, and I told the creator, “I’m not gonna let that happen to me again.” And I heard a song by Roy Ayers. He was on an album called “Everybody Loves the Sunshine,” and the song was called “In Search of the Third Eye.” He’s throwing a lemon up in the sky on that album. A lot of good cuts on there, but this song, “In Search of the Third Eye,” grabbed my ear because the lyrics were about secrets of numbers, secrets of sound, secrets of wisdom will be found. Baby, baby, baby, look to the sky. Oh my goodness, I gotta have that. So I got it, read the jacket. We had jackets back then, or album covers, and I bought it. It said he had read a book called “In Search of the Third Eye.” That was my introduction to metaphysics. That started to answer a lot of my questions, like why I was here, what was I supposed to do, and if it’s this arbitrary God, take me now. That’s where I was with it. The pain was that intense, but I heard the song, and it piqued my interest. I got my hands on that book and started to read about numbers, and it said, “Craig, you’re number seven, faith and wisdom. Your job is to research hidden information and share it with others.” I’m doing it. [Laughter] So I began to look at my friend’s death in a whole new light. I started to study the scripture. I went to seminary, and I discovered no greater gift that a friend give his life. That’s the greatest gift you can give for a friend, to give your life. So I interpreted that in that manner, not the tragedy that was tearing my world apart, but the gift that awakened me to the secret of numbers and the fact that we are the living word. And if anybody has any doubt about it, they can contact me, and I guarantee you, once we get off the phone, you’ll know that God is real.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay, so when you talk about your best friend, when you look back, tell us, if you can, a little bit about him. Did he become, when you started studying numerology, did that kind of correlate with him being your best friend?

Craig E Wright
Yeah, his name was a seven. After I began to study and research, and I started with myself, then my relationships, looking at the people around me, and after, this was in ’72, 1972, then after 16 years of self-study and analysis, in 1988, I was invited on a radio show. People wanted to talk to the guy who was telling people stuff about numbers. I started sharing information. I’d be in the food line, Dr. Fortman, and I’d see a name tag, and I’d say, “Uh-oh.” That was God’s message telling me, “This is why I woke you up, so you can share this with this person.” And I would tell them something, and I’d just keep on going. I wouldn’t interact with them. I thought people were going to think I was crazy, and many people thought I was. There’s some of your listeners probably thinking that right now, but I’ve gotten used to that. Then I’d be in a store, and someone would shout out, “Happy birthday!” And I’d say, “Okay, that was always my signal.” And I would go to that person, and I would share, pretty much like I shared with you when you came back from the break. I would just start receiving information, and I would share it with them. So people, the word got out. I was invited on a radio show, and that’s how I got started. People started calling me up, so I had to create an answer to what people were asking me for, and their business was born. I never planned on this. I never even heard of numerology. No one gave me a book. I was guided to it. And back in ’71, the only books I could find were at the Library of Congress. Instead of going to work, I’d go to the Library of Congress to study all day. That’s what number sevens do. If you’re born on the 7th, 16th, or the 25th, I feel you. We need time by ourselves. We like to read and study. We’re kind of like Kentucky Fried Chicken. Whatever we do, that’s all we do. We do it right. It’s specialization, experts.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I got one more name for you right now. Kevin, K-E-V-I-N, last name Low, L-O-W-E.

Craig E Wright
Okay, Kevin is a number seven. We’ve been talking about that a lot. Low is a 19. That’s come up a lot too. The particular seven, the Kevin, oh, by the way, Kevin, if you’re not writing, I recommend you do so. Something you write can make it to the big screen. 14, Kevin is a 25, and Low 10 is a 19. 25 and 19 is a 44, master liberator, household name, or self-made millionaire. That’s the potential that Kevin has, to become a household name or self-made millionaire. When I talked about the 44, as I was going through the numbers, I mentioned Martin Luther King Jr. and Nelson Mandela. It’s called the master liberator vibration. So what does that mean? If people listen to your advice, they’ll be set free. That’s what he came here to do. He’s a master spirit. Kevin, take pen to paper. You’ll be able to reach more people.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay, you know, and what you’re talking about is making me think about the fact that there’s a book in the Bible called Numbers.

Craig E Wright
It’s the fourth book of the Bible, written by Moses.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
And I never, you know, look at the names of the people’s right bias.

Craig E Wright
Right, and you know what else Moses wrote? Psalms 90, verse 12. “So teach us to number our days so we can apply our hearts to wisdom.” Everyone thinks that means, “Oh, our time’s running out, but number your days, you’re going to die soon.” That’s not what it means. He went to the Egyptian mystery schools and studied these formulas. What I’ve been doing, when I added up the numbers in your birthday, when you say, “Oh my goodness, that’s me,” I was numbering your days. That’s what it was called back in the day. You add your month, your day, and your year, it tells you your gift. You know what the 32 is called? Not to put any pressure on you or anything. The 32, Dr. Fortman, is called the ruler of all nations and people. The ruler of all nations and people. July the 4th, 1776. You know whose birthday that is? The good old U.S. of A. July the 4th, 1776. If you add that up, 7 and 4 is 11, and add those four numbers, 1 plus 7 plus 7 plus 6, you get 21. 21 and 21-11 is 32, the ruler of all nations and people. It was no accident that they picked that day. There were many metaphysicians amongst those founding fathers, and they picked that date, and they waited until they had 13 colonies because of number 13, which is also a four. They wanted to match that gift from God, that four energy. The number 13 stands for change, release, and transformation. Many people think that 13 is a death number, and in aspects, it is because the soul is changed, transformed, and released from the vessel. It’s also symbolized by the phoenix. The firebird goes down in flames, everybody says, “Oh, that was a nice birthday,” and before the funeral, he’s rising from the ashes. The butterfly crawls around on the ground, weaves a cocoon, symbolizing prayer, meditation, seeking the kingdom, comes out with wings, change, transform. Butterflies are trying to tell us something. More time alone, being still, turning within, turning within. That’s where all relationships should be founded on, inner spiritual principles, and you can discover them with numerology. The day of birth tells you how you’re going to get along in day-to-day activity. Your birthday tells you what your spiritual gift is. That’s the spiritual foundation for your relationship. When I do a compatibility report, I look at those numbers to see how they match.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So have you, not broken up marriages, but found out from people that you are definitely not compatible, and do they take your advice?

Craig E Wright
Well, there are no numbers that aren’t compatible. The question is, are people willing to make the sacrifices and the compromises to adjust? Some people are more willing to adjust than others. Number five, for example, oh, you have to do all the adjusting because they’re going to be who they are. [Laughter] Freedom, independence. Number ones are the same way. People who do mostly adjusting will have number two energy. Two stands for harmony, peace, cooperation. But all of us are going to go through all the numbers eventually and develop those talents and skills. So, you know, there’s no number that’s not compatible. I haven’t broken up any marriages. I can say that I pretty much enhance business relationships.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
You know, and I was going to ask you about that, about, okay, should people use, how can people use numerology in their businesses?

Craig E Wright
Oh my goodness, I get a lot of calls from that. I get calls from real estate agents, business people who are looking for offices. They want to know if this address and street, what’s it going to be conducive for? I get people call me, or they look to buy a house, they look at the address. They get into a business partnership, and they want to know, is this person right for me? Doctors, they want to know, is this doctor going to be good for me? There are so many applications for this. You know, anything that has letters and numbers associated with it, which is everything, you can discover if it’s compatible with you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So do you think that it’s intentional that we’re born on certain days?

Craig E Wright
Ah, that’s an excellent question. Let’s turn again to the story of the prophet Jeremiah. When he was telling God, “I don’t want to go tell those people that and be a prophet. They’re killing prophets.” And God said, “Wait a minute, we made this deal before you were formed in the womb.” So what was your question again?

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Okay, I’ve got you. I got you. So I want to show people you have a book, and let me find a copy of it right here. It all adds up.

Craig E Wright
It all adds up. Okay, in chapter four, chapter four is all about relationships. Chapter four, yeah, I have a whole chapter devoted on that. Discovering our true inner self is especially important in interpersonal relationships. While most people focus on the outer look, the outer world of looks, race, financial status, the car you drive, when choosing a mate, more harmonious relationships can be formed if we focus on the inner world of spirit when choosing our mate.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow. [Laughter] Wow. So I do a lot of that.

Craig E Wright
Wow. The main relationship, though, Dr. Fortman, is our relationship with our creator.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
I agree totally.

Craig E Wright
Just like the prophet Jeremiah, we need to know that contract. Many people ask that question during times of trouble, and what did they say? Your test becomes your testimony. I asked the question, God gave me an answer in a format I could understand because I was prepared for math. And now when I run into people with that question, I’m able to provide it for them. I started studying this back in 1972. Last 30, 40, 50 years this year. Wow, it’s my fiftieth anniversary of being a numerologist.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Wow.

Craig E Wright
Never thought about that. So it was as though God was preparing me for now.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
So your name, this is my last question, your name, tell me about your name.

Craig E Wright
My first name is the number 11. It’s called the number of the master teacher, master of revelation. I was obligated, that’s my contract. The name is the promise. I had a promise to God that I would share information and share life. My middle name is a number one, leadership. That meant even though people told me I was crazy, told me I was evil, had ministers trying to wash me with holy water, basically got ran out of seminary, the number one energy kept me on the path that God was leading me and guiding me home until I found a school called the Metaphysical Ministry. That’s the number one energy, being able to go through obstacles, no matter who’s against you, no matter which force. The test is when you listen to the outside world or the inner voice. My last name is a number 40. The name Wright is a 40. That shows up a lot in the Bible, 40 days and 40 nights, 40 years in the desert. If you read those stories, every time the 40 shows up, God, that zero in the beginning, that’s a symbol for God, is establishing a new order. The number four stands for order. So when the 40 shows up, God’s establishing a new order, washing away, leaving Pharaoh, the number 40. God’s establishing a new order. So that’s my promise, to help establish the order of God here on earth by letting people know they have a contract with God. They made a promise. If you want heaven on earth, if you want to solve the problems, you need to exercise some faith and be about your father’s work. And there’s no excuse now because I can tell you what you’re here for. If you’re listening to this, it’s time to know.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
All right, so how can people get in contact with you? I put it down here on the lower third.

Craig E Wright
Yes, you can visit my website. I think my link tree address is running underneath the video. You can visit my website. It’s my name, craigewright.com. That’s C-R-A-I-G-E-W-R-I-G-H-T dot com. Tell me that you heard about me on Dr. Fortman’s show. You have to mention Dr. Fortman and order a six-month forecast, and I’ll give you six months for free.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Can you hear that, people? And if you didn’t get that, the ones who know me know how to get in contact with me. The others who don’t, you can go to Jan, no, don’t go to, go to my personal page. Go to relationshipmatterstv@gmail.com. That’s relationshipmatterstv@gmail.com. And I know, Dr. Craig, that, oh my goodness, you’re gonna have so many people coming to you for, and you know, I mean, to find out how numbers are so intricate in their lives. My goodness, you know, the time has just flown by.

Craig E Wright
Yes, it has. And I have to tell you, next month is when the money is coming. I have to get that in. You have to be patient this month. This is the number seven month. March is the money month. That’s gonna give you the money you need to make the change you have in mind, Fortman.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
All right, and you know what? I will definitely keep in contact with you and let you know.

Craig E Wright
Awesome.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Thank you so much, Dr. Craig, for being here this evening, morning, afternoon, or evening, wherever people are in the world watching the show. And I really appreciate it. And you know what? We’re gonna have to have you come back at some time because actually, I want to find out after people have talked to you what they found out.

Craig E Wright
Awesome. So thank you.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
Thank you.

Craig E Wright
It’s a date.

Dr. Janice Hooker Fortman
It’s a date. OMG, this has been an amazing show. He is an amazing person, and he has been an amazing guest. I hope you all really got something. Maxine says, “Yes, oh my God, a great show.” Sandy says she was amazed, and it’s so many other comments. I’ve gone over my time, but I want to thank all of my listeners and viewers for watching my show. I hope you received a lot of value out of it. And we’re here every Thursday, 7 p.m. Central Time, 8 p.m. Eastern Time, 1 p.m. Pacific Time, and 1 a.m. in the UK, so I found out. So I want to thank everyone again for watching, and I hope you have a beautiful rest of your morning, afternoon, evening. I’ll be here again next Thursday with another wonderful guest. We’re going to talk again about relationships because relationships matter, and there are all kinds of relationship matters. [Music] yes [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]